Is Your Handlebar Height Sabotaging Your Ride?

Is your handlebar height sabotaging your ride
On 02/25/2024
By Gene

I would like to share an IMPORTANT BIKE SETUP CONCEPT with you that greatly impacts how you ride. Read on to learn if  Your Handlebar Height is Sabotaging Your Ride.

Background:

I’ve been experimenting with handlebar height for years, but since writing this article four years ago, I have been really paying attention to my bar height.

As I go from bike to bike (everyday bike, enduro bike, downhill bike, ebike) I have found that even a 5mm difference in handlebar height affects my body position.

Take into account that all four bikes have very similar geometry, the same length stem, the same handlebars, the same grips, and the same handlebar roll.

This article assumes you already know what

  • width bar you like,
  • what bar roll you like,
  • what lever placement you like, and
  • what grips you like.

For present purposes we have to assume these things are sorted out as I was taught never to make more than one change at a time.

If you make two changes at once (change your bar height and bar width at the same time), you won’t know what caused it to feel better or worse after the changes.

Why your handlebar height is important:

Precise handlebar height is more important than I realized! I made a small handlebar height adjustment, and it ended up sabotaging my racing and riding for six weeks.

Many of my students’ handlebars are too high and often we lower them 10-50mm, to get them in a better, more confident position.

Often, bikes come from the shop in the most comfortable position with 20-50mm of spacers under the stem and riser bars (bars that rise 15 to 40mm higher than the stem). This feels good in the parking lot, and while seated and pedaling on mellow terrain, but when you want to ride more demanding trails, it can get in the way.

What happens if your bars are too high:

In my courses, I explain that if your bars are too high, it makes riding more difficult. When climbing with your handlebars too high, it is hard to hinge forward enough to keep the front wheel on the ground on steep climbs, even when you have slid your weight all the way forward on the saddle.

With high handlebars, wheelies and manuals are harder to do and tend to put you in a “hanging off the handlebars” body position with your weight too far back while descending.

What is the goal of finding the right height:

The GOAL of finding the right handlebar height is to find a height that puts you in an athletic, centered, neutral, and hinged body position when standing and descending while not compromising your climbing body position.

Mountain biking is a dynamic sport, and you want to keep returning to a centered, neutral position. A position where you can react or hopefully pro-act to anything the trail throws at you.

 

Aaron Gwin in a hinged-at-the-hips-flat-back riding position

Aaron Gwin in a hinged-at-the-hips-flat-back riding position. (Photo by Downhill911)

Reaching this goal has become challenging as our wheels get bigger and forks get taller with more suspension travel. For people approximately 5’6” and shorter, it was much easier to get the bar height right on a 26” wheeled bike with 75mm of suspension travel than a 29er with 130-170mm of travel.

Before we get further with bar height;

Let me explain an important riding concept:

Riding confidently and on the offense (riding with a focus on accomplishing what you WANT to do instead of focusing on what you DON’T WANT to do) is one of the most important aspects of mountain biking.

Focusing on getting to the bottom of the descent smoothly or quickly instead of focusing on not crashing is paramount to riding at your best.

It turns out that HANDLE HEIGHT affects more than just your body position! A mere 16mm rise in bar height (that I thought was going to take the stress off my shoulders and allow me to look further ahead) not only hurt my position but it killed my confidence.

That 16mm rise put me in the “hanging off the back of your bike” position.

What I teach:

In my courses, I teach that too-high handlebars make it harder to stay centered while descending.
If you think about it, that is a very defensive posture, leaning back away from danger.

Being upright decreases our stability as well as our ability to stay neutral (where we can react/respond better to what the trail throws at us).

Check out my Body position and Fundamental Movement Video Tutorial

Consequences of having your bars too high:

That defensive posture put me on, well, the defensive, and four years ago, I spent the week of the National Championships riding scared (I managed to win but was disappointed in my nervous riding). Let me tell you, this is a vicious cycle!

Start riding on the defensive, and you start making mistakes. Those mistakes scare you, so you feel like you can’t ride well – further shaking your confidence.

Of course, I attributed this to a crash I had three weeks before, not to the seemingly insignificant change in bar height. This did feel a little weird immediately, but change always feels weird, so I thought I would get used to it.

After racing the National Championships and then another regional race, I was really frustrated with how I was riding.

However, I realized my handlebar height might be the culprit, so I lowered the bars 10mm by removing two headset spacers under the stem.

Gene's Handlebars

The difference in confidence was immediate! With the first run with lower bars, I was riding much more aggressively.

Until this experiment, it would have been hard for me to believe 10mm in bar height could make that much of a difference, but it did! It forced me to hinge a little more and more importantly, it centered me over the bike in a much more stable and aggressive position.

I often tell students that their handlebars are too high when they are obviously 20-60mm too high, but now I know to stress experimenting with bar height more for all my students. If 10mm can make a huge difference in body position, confidence, and control, imagine what 15-60mm could do.

Too high a handlebar height puts us in an upright and slightly back-of-center position: not quite in balance, not neutral, and ultimately a defensive position.

In short:  Experiment with your handlebar height. Go as low as you can go with your current bars and see what happens.

Many riders (those under 5’10 riding 29ers and under 5’8″ on 27.5 bikes) should try a bar with no rise.

For taller riders:

Your handlebar height can help you achieve the hinged-at-the-hips-flat-back descending position like Amaury Pierron pictured below.

Amaury Pierron, hinged

Amaury Pierron hinged-at-the-hips-flat-back riding position

For shorter riders:

For shorter riders, you will usually find a slightly less hinged position feels better like Jackson Goldstone in this photo:

Jackson Goldstone

Jackson Goldstone imagine courtesy of Fox Racing

What is the formula:

I wish there were a simple formula for bar height. For me, it is when my bars are about 3″ above my knee when standing and coasting with my pedals level.

For shorter people, it can be above their belly button when they are standing on the pedals.

I have been searching for that formula for years but there are just too many variables. Three people of the exact same height are likely to have different limb lengths, shoulder widths, differing amounts of core strength and hip mobility, etc and be on bikes with different headtube heights and frame reach measurements.

One of my coaches taught me that, instead of looking for a formula, you should focus on whether you are in an athletic position. If you are not in an athletic position, stop and make adjustments to get yourself in that position.

Again, what is your GOAL:

It is to have your bars low enough for climbing and to put you in an athletic, hinged-at-the-hips position when standing and descending.

Too low and it may hurt your back and make it hard to look ahead.

Too high and you may struggle with keeping your front wheel on the ground during steep climbs and/or find yourself hanging off the back of your bike while descending.

The old rule of thumb that your handlebars should be level with your saddle (at full climbing height) to 3 inches below your saddle (at full climbing height) is a great place to start.

In general, the taller you are, the more drop-from-saddle-height-to-bar-height you will have. At 6’3” my bars are about 2.5” lower than my saddle at pedaling height (dropper post fully extended).

Many riders who are under 5’6” will find it hard to even get the handlebars level with the saddle on a 29r. Pro XC racer, Chloe Woodruff who at 5’2”, runs a negative rise stem to get her bars lower (as do many riders under 5’6”, especially if they ride 29er’s).

How to adjust your bike:

Many/most mountain bikes are sold with handlebars as high as the steerer tube will allow. This is usually the most comfortable position for seated riding (allows a straighter back, and less hinging at the hips) and it leaves four to ten 5mm spacers under the stem. This gives you 20-50mm of adjustment.

Often, I suggest a student remove all the spacers from below their stem and put them on top (lowering their bars 20-50mm), and they love it.

All of my bike setup suggestions are based on performance, not comfort!

What about comfort:

Comfort is important, though – if your bike isn’t comfortable, you are less likely to want to ride it. If you find lowering your handlebars uncomfortable, give it 4-5 rides to see if your body adapts. You may be forced to choose between comfort and performance (or work on your core strength and mobility).

Lower bars will always help in climbing too, as it is easier to keep enough weight over the front wheel.

With today’s taller bikes, most of us could benefit from lowering our bars. All of us could benefit from experimenting with bar height!

Go out and experiment. Take your time; change feels weird, which isn’t necessarily bad.

Please share this article with anyone you think may benefit and feel free to call or e-mail with any questions.

Create your best ride yet,
Gene

Comments

8 Comments

  1. Chris Schuetta

    As always, thank you for sharing another great article. I too have been experimenting with bar height and often lean towards a higher rise or stack height. However I have also recently experienced all the benefits you mentioned about riding with a lower bar height.

    Reply
    • Gene

      Thanks, Chris. Glad to hear you are out experimenting!

      Reply
  2. Edward

    Great info, Gene. Always amazed at how even millimeter changes can make all the difference. MTB and downhill skiing rely on the same effect, getting over your fall line ski/tire instead of leaning back. Your recommendation can help you get your weighting right.

    Reply
    • Gene

      Thanks, Edward!

      Reply
  3. Jimmy

    Thanks Gene, bars are one of my favourite aspects of bike setup , it’s amazing how much difference a few mm can change the feel and performance.

    Reply
    • Gene

      Hey Jimmy, it really is. Look at Dakotah Nortons setup, he says it’s because he has little crocodile arms! 🙂

      Reply
  4. John Labine

    Excellent article, been riding since the late 80’s and just got my first full suspension so I am dealing with this issue AND that the BB is about 2” higher than my old bike so leg extensions entered the mix too. Trying to get more extension without having to reach down to my bars.
    When I raced in the early 90s, my bars were 3-1/2” below my seat, pushing 60 now, I can’t handle that!

    Reply
    • Gene

      Thanks John.

      Reply

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Kent Wells
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Thanks Coach Gene for your time the last 2 days! Your coaching is spot on! I’m so lucky to have had the chance to spend this time learning from the most passionate mountain biker out there – one who cares about the sport and all the techniques that go into it! Total respect! That’s all I have to say! If anyone is questioning or “thinking” about signing up for his camp- DON’T , just do! Thank you Gene!!!!

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The results are starting to trickle in as I have the time to ride some of my local rides that I track my times on.  I’m astonished!

My descending time from the summit of Chimney Gulch to the Beaver Brook cross over dropped from a personal best of 6:51.0 to 5:46.0, for the bottom section it went from a personal best of 13:42.0 to 10:12.2.  Considering that I really haven’t had enough time to practice a lot yet, I’m stunned at the improvement.  I can also say that I felt more in control than I used to and I cleaned a section I’ve never had the balls to even try before.

Again Gene, I can’t thank you enough.  The camp was great.  Your ability to break skills down into digestible parts, watch riders and help them refine techniques, your humility and sense of humor make you a world class coach.  I’ll be taking your next level two clinic this year and probably a refresher next year.”

 Mark Forgy
Expert XC racer, Mountain Bike Fanatic

Just wanted to give you an update and let you know that I am starting to experience the delayed effects of your camp.  I knew when the camp ended that I was leaving with some new skills that were helpful immediately.  But I also knew there were other skills that were going to take more practice, patience and time.  Well, I’m starting to see them.  

I’ve been practicing descending the way you instructed us but until the last couple of weeks, I knew I was still faster descending the way I always had – I was just more comfortable that way.  But in the last couple of weeks, it all kind of clicked.  

I’m not winning any downhill races – yet – but all of a sudden (and it really did seem to happen pretty suddenly) your techniques took over and instead of just using them at low speeds only when I thought about it, I was using them all over the trails and feeling pretty comfortable.  Now I find myself only reverting to my old techniques when I come into a corner already off balance.  Anyway, thanks, it’s a great feeling – can’t wait to use them on race courses this year!

Sarah Kaufman
Top Pro Endurance Racer

I just wanted to let you know that I’ve had big improvements in my racing this year after taking the betteride course (about 10 minutes improvement from last year).  I got 2nd place in the beginner category at Eldora, then placed 15th out of 35 in the Sport category at Winterpark in my first ‘sport race’.   I passed people on the downhill for the first time in these two races, and am feeling much more confident on the downhills (I hit 31.5 mph max on a tight singletrack in the Eldora race).

Jonathan Jones

Tonight was the first night of practice cyclocross races.  The cornering techniques I learned in you camp last weekend rock on the cross bike.  I was able to carry speed through the corners and off cambers that I could only dream of last year!

I actually found myself cranking up the speed before the corners instead of braking. Nobody else is using this technique.  I found my self keeping pace with stronger riders just on cornering skill alone.  Imagine after I’ve a had a few weeks to practice.

I had best time of my life on a mountain bike at your camp, and look forward to doing another one next spring.

Chris Cornelison
September 24, 2010

I took your Neshaminy clinic in June.  I wanted to fill you in on my race results.  I raced all season in the Midatlantic Super Series in Women’s Sport. I won the overall championship!  I am so happy that I won!  I will be moving up to Elite next year.

I’ve been doing the drills you taught for 20 minutes, twice a week.  I almost always preride my race courses.  I work on hard sections to figure out the best lines.  Since the clinic, I have noticed that my balance has improved tremendously.

So, Gene… thank you for the clinic.  I still tell all my riding buddies about it. Especially how you break down the mechanics of everything that you teach.  I let them know how you explain the physics behind the techniques.  I tell them that the learning environment you provide is the perfect way to learn something, practice it, and really get it. I’d love to do a refresher course.

Angie Wallace
September 15, 2009

Attending Gene’s camp in Sedona was one of the best decisions that I’ve ever made. You can read skills articles and watch the youtube videos all day, but these will never engrain the skills needed to become a good mountain biker.

Gene’s course teaches you all of the primary skills, and then he drills them into you. You repeat these drills under his watchful eye until the become engrained. It’s been about 9 months since I attended the course and I still hear Gene correcting me if I’m going about an obstacle or turn in the wrong position.

I still make every ride a learning experience because of what he taught, and my riding has improved immensely as a result. Thanks Gene!

Steven Peyton
August, 2018

Just wanted to show you what your lessons made me do this past weekend!  If you click on the photo or link to the photo album look through the album and on the 2nd page, bottom row, there’s a great shot of me doing what you taught me to do with my elbows-totally Brian Lopes style. 

I was impressed to see myself doing that-a big change in my riding style and I know it’ll make me faster in the long run.

So thanks and I may have some time coming up where I can make it to one of your camps-I’ll let you know.

Amanda Riley, Kenda, Titus, Hayes Team
Winners of 2008, 24 hours of Old Pubelo

Thanks again for holding the camp last weekend.  I was finally able to get out and ride yesterday on the falcon trail (loop that goes around the Air Force Academy).  There are two sections that I have had problems with in the past.  One is a tight turn with two drop offs that are oddly spaced and the landing slopes off into some bushes.  I’ve ridden the trail a dozen times and walked that section most times.  Once I tried it and endo‘ed into the bushes.  When I rode it yesterday, I cleared it with confidence.  

I kept repeating to myself “Do or Do Not – There Is No Try”:-) I relaxed, saw the line I wanted to take, found my balance and went through the section very controlled – it was great!

The next section is a steep switchback climb with a ton of sand.  I have never made that turn, although I have tried to every time I’ve ridden the trail.  This time I approached the switchback using the techniques and strategy you taught us.  The result – made it!  No problem!

The last thing I noticed is that the whole ride was smoother.  I focused primarily on the vision techniques  – and body position skills.  The ride felt slower than what I normally ride, but it was actually six minutes faster!  Absolutely amazing!
Brad
Oct. 8, 2008 (5 days after his 3-day coaching session)

My son took your camp in winter park at age 14. He is 16 and just completed the Laramie Epic (30 miles) last weekend. He placed 2 in the age bracket 0-29. He continues to use your techniques and tips. Smooth is fast! Your worksheets are worn out and weathered from continued use! Worth it….you bet!!!

Sheila Palmer
July 2019

Your camp gave me the confidence to go out and try a few races this summer.  My first race was in the beginner 40 to 45 age class in the “Point to Point” cross country race in Winter Park.  While I certainly did not break any records – I at least had a respectable finish and more importantly had a total blast.  

My second race was a Super D (much more my style in that there is MUCH less uphill cranking) at Winter Park where I got a second place finish in my age group.  3rd race was a Mountain States Cup Super D race in Copper where I came in tenth.  Again no records but still having a total blast.  

My friends the same age as me think I am crazy doing this stuff but I think they are crazy to be sitting on their arses.  Again, thank you for giving me the confidence to go out there and try some racing and hopefully in the near future I will be in another one of your camps!

Will Edgington
September, 2009

Thanks for the e-mail.  By the way, after completing your camp in Arizona, I dropped 5 minutes off my previous best lap time at the 12 hours of Temecula mountain bike race (59 to 54 minutes).  Obviously, this was a significant breakthrough.  

I’ve also noticed that by being a smoother and more efficient rider and by decoupling my body from the bike, I exert less energy and travel faster.  “Looking to victory” works like a charm.  Most importantly, the basic skills I was exposed to in your camp (and continue to develop) have made mountain biking more enjoyable.

Keith
January 2008

I’ve been wanting to pass on a personal success story.  I participated in my first mountain bike race in Copper Harbor, MI. I placed 6th in my age group (over 6 min. behind 3rd place) on a very technical course. Considering the field, I was happy with the results.

My goal after the BetterRide camp was to be in the top 3 in the same race with a similar field. With my new found skills I placed 1st this time with 2nd place over 7 min. behind. I tore it up! Thanks, I’m always telling people that no matter how much they think they know how to ride a mountain bike, they owe it to themselves to attend one of your camps. A year later I still practice my skills every time I’m out.

BTW, a while back you suggested some reading material. I chose Body, Mind Mastery by Dan Millman. (in audio book form). Not only do I feel it helped my mountain bike skills with things like, how tension is counter productive and how the “opponent is not the enemy, but instead the teacher” it also helped me in my own personal life. Good recommendation!
Keep up the good job.

Rich Schmit
April 2011

Gene and fellow BetterRiders!
I have been smiling all day long today, thinking about our rad weekend together! I taught 4 of my kids how to do wheelies today and they thought I was super cool for a solid 5 minutes until they had it completely mastered and were smoking past my on their rear wheels. 

 
Thank you forever, Gene, for sharing your passion and deciding to teach. An empowering, motivating, completely exhilarating weekend. I feel like a little kid on Christmas morning with my new toy. It was a total honor to cross paths with you all!

Currently standing on one leg while I brush my teeth and dictate this email…
Jen  

Friends took the 3 day a while ago and really enjoyed it.

I didn’t think I was ready for that but I hired him privately for most of a day. Best experience going. It helped my skiing also. Eyes, eyes and balance via movement on the bike. 

Steamboat in the rain…..

John Rostenbur

MTB Skills Camp in Fraser, CO. It was amazing. Phenomenal skills coach, Coach Gene Hamilton, literally broke down the fundamentals of mountain biking in 3 days. Super fun fellow campers. Enjoyed every bit.

Now I need to practice and strengthen some new neural circuits. If you want to improve your MTB skills, no matter your level, take a course from Better Ride.
Patricia George

Thank you, Gene! I thoroughly enjoyed your skills camp. One of the most effective learning environments I have experienced to date. Now it is all about due diligence!

 I am interested in a “day with Gene in Moab” and future course offerings.

Ryan Bertram

 

Gene, The first thing I did was buy some cones. My drive way is pretty steep so can do switch backs there. My pedal wheelies are coming along. Yesterday I had a bit of a breakthrough ride with my vision. On a ride with some small drop offs I realized by using the vision technique I was more balanced, more comfortable and jumped further without trying. 

That was the best clinic I have ever done. Thanks for the reading list. I’ve read a number of those books but I now have more to read.

Don Leet

 

 

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